Hermit Road 12:41 Sun Jan 8
Red Cross providing humanitarian aid to U.K. Residents for the first time since the war.
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Big news recently that The Red Cross have decided that our country is in such a terrible state that they should divert resources away from half the world where people live in less than a dollar a day and start providing biscuits to people in this country. They are also launching a campaign into the winter crisis in the NHS that the NHS say isn't happening.
In separate, totally unrelated news, the Chairman of The Red Cross is also Executive Chair of the Labour Party, and they have just appointed a former Guardian columnist as their Head of Media.
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ManorParkHammer
2:49 Sun Mar 5
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For some reason I read the opening post in the voice of Adam Curtis.
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ray winstone
1:48 Sun Mar 5
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You know what, I think I agree with you. :0)
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Hermit Road
1:44 Sun Mar 5
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No. I think it is bad, That's Wh I'm saying we should abolish it and make a system that works.
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ray winstone
1:39 Sun Mar 5
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So things like axing nurses grants and locum bills of £3billion are good practice then?
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Hermit Road
1:33 Sun Mar 5
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...it's a terrible system for the times we live in. For the first half of its existence it worked. People appreciated it and didn't abuse the shit out of it. Nowadays it needs reforming so that it is more like successful European healthcare systems. Build a link between personal responsibility and health by establishing a cost to the user. That would mean it won't be the NHS any more and if comparable countries in the EU are anything to go by, we'd be better for it.
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ray winstone
1:30 Sun Mar 5
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So it's failing because?
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Hermit Road
1:27 Sun Mar 5
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Ray, an above-inflation rise in funding can't be called austerity unless you're just using random words to fill sentences.
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ray winstone
1:24 Sun Mar 5
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Really Hermit?
The NHS has been widely regarded as one of the most efficient healthcare systems in the developed world. For example, a study comparing the healthcare systems of 11 countries between 2011 and 2013 found that the NHS scored highest on quality, access and efficiency.
But by 2016 the picture is becoming very different. Good access to services and high quality of care are at risk, largely because of insufficient funding of the NHS: we are now experiencing the biggest sustained fall in NHS spending in any period since 1951. Once adjusted for inflation, spending on the NHS in England has been increasing by only 0.9% a year (on average) – well below the 3.7% growth rate that the UK health service has been used to in the past. But even worse, once inflation that is specific to the NHS is taken into account, the real increase in funding is just 0.2% per year.
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Hermit Road
12:10 Sun Mar 5
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Spending on the NHS has gone up massively in the last 7 years. That can't reasonably be called austerity.
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ray winstone
11:00 Sat Mar 4
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Tens of thousands of people - including NHS workers, campaigners and union representatives - have marched in London to protest against "yet more austerity" in the health service.
Protesters on the #OurNHS march wanted to draw attention to plans which could see hospital services in nearly two-thirds of England cut back.
Union leaders say many NHS services "are on their knees".
The Department of Health says it is investing an extra £4bn in the NHS.
Organisers say that "at least 250,000" people took part in the march, which began in Tavistock Square and ended in Westminster, where speakers including Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn addressed the crowd.
Better just to blame immigrants though eh?
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normannomates
1:44 Thu Jan 12
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Mashed 10.15
'Entitled'
Not free you moron..we pay our national insurance for healthcare.
Its the fucking immigrants taking the piss and to many suits in the system.
The NHS would be just fine if this country wasnt a fuckin free for all
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Gavros
1:11 Thu Jan 12
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You're a pedantic weirdo. And likely gay.
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
12:19 Thu Jan 12
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How low you have sunk Gav, have you no pride? It's not just me who can see your posts you know.
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Gavros
12:17 Thu Jan 12
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Twat!
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
12:07 Thu Jan 12
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mashed in maryland 10:01 Wed Jan 11
The TV pictures of smokers choking themselves to death untreated and fat people left to die in the street are going to go down brilliantly on TV. especially when accompanied by the news that the person left to die had paid tax for 50 years and was a war hero or something.
Won't happen. Next they will be refusing to treat people who have sporting injuries.'Broke you leg playing rugby? Self inflicted, fuck off!'
Of course the NHS, run as it is entirely for the benefit of its management and staff, will be well up for it.
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Hermit Road
11:55 Wed Jan 11
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Spoke to an NHS consultant recently, he lays the blame squarely at the feet of PFI. Reckons the contractors have them over a barrel and the Trust he works for are peddling furiously just to keep their head above water.
Gordon Brown fucked us for generations to come.
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ray winstone
11:48 Wed Jan 11
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Just watched PMQ's, May in total fucking denial about the NHS crisis, they won't be happy until it's all privatised.
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Westside
12:32 Wed Jan 11
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If the NHS refuses to treat smokers, then fine. remove all taxation on tobacco. The bloody stupid smokers pay a fortune in tax, more than covering the cost of their treatment by the NHS.
If you factor in cost of treatments saved on smokers who die early and don't reach later life, like non smokers do, then the NHS is on to a winner.
As for extra funding for the NHS, why the emphasis on increasing tax rates? Why not promote policies, that create economic growth, increasing the overall tax take , without raising taxation rates?
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mashed in maryland
10:01 Wed Jan 11
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People are educated.
People know smoking gives you cancer and they do it anyway.
People know that heroin is highly addictive and will probably destroy your life and they do it anyway.
People know that getting pissed every day is bad for you and they do it anyway.
People know that eating McDonalds every day is bad for you and they do it anyway.
People know drunk driving is stupid and causes countless deaths and they do it anyway.
See where I'm going with this?
If these people were put in a position where the consequences of these things won't be sorted for free (at the taxpayer's expense of course) and would cost fortunes to put right, then maybe that's the incentive they need, cos whatever we're doing now clearly doesn't work and all of the above cost the NHS (and therefor impact the treatment of the genuinely unfortunate and needy) dearly.
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King Marlon
1:57 Wed Jan 11
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or rather than give them a good kicking/throw them on the scrap heap, educate them from an early age or find out how through life they fall into these problems.
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mashed in maryland
10:15 Mon Jan 9
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I see overbuyer is still accusing me, Surf and 8 of being the same person, as it's so inconcievable in his world that more than one person disagrees with him.
Anyway; how to solve the NHS in one easy step:
Deny free treatment to:
Druggies
Alcies
The obese
Smokers
People who want sex changes
Drunk drivers
Immigrants who've been here less than 5 years
Probably people with AIDS as well, if they got it through bumming without a condom
Its harsh but it'll encourage people to look after themselves more, therefore eliminating the need for treatment in the first place.
This will never happen though as we in the UK have been conditioned to think - understandably and I'm guilty of this too - that we are "entitled" to free healthcare. Unfortunately the reality is we're not. Healthcare is money and labour. No one is entitled to someone else's hard work.
Money saved can be put into care in the community stuff as well, which some bits of the NHS are already sort of pushing towards (providing home care for OAPs instead of bringing them into hospital for example, where a lot of them end up never returning from, I'm sure a few on here will have experience of this). Prevention is ALWAYS better than cure.
Oh shit it looks like I should have logged in as Infidel, what a twat.
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